Obama doesn't care about white people

Well, aren't you nice?

* Yawning*

No, I'm not.

But I also don't hide my lies by making sweeping generalizations to simplify complicated issues.

Have a lovely day!

Have a lovely day!

Same to you. I didn't know I was lying but if you say so it must be true.

* Yawning even harder *

Yep!!

Ignore is such a lovely feature for bkt and Utha- they are so predictably nasty and ignorant.

doctorsteph, ...and Bluekilgoretrout

thats bkt

The pleasure is all mine.

That's the issue bkt. It's not a pleasure. Now where is that "Ignore This Author" option...

Hehehe....

#2.11 When the pleasure is all yours, doesn't that constitute masturbatory discourse?

Didn't mommy tell you you'd go blind if you persisted? Leave your trout alone...

.. have nothing but sound bites taken out of context to work with !

And that's all it is...words/sentences taken out of context. Your fears and anger sure drive some of you to use up valuable breathing time searching for something to pin on the president (in an attempt to make others believe he is this evil creature from the Black Lagoon). Please try to understand though that you are simply feeding into your own fears to the same people. SScott, you're actually not recruiting anyone new...but then you already knew that, didn't you? We understand...you just can't help yourself. Hang on...the ride has a few more curves ahead, most of which are onwards and upwards for the country...at long last.

Maybe a course in critical thinking would be helpful~~~

The POTUS and his lobotomized minions are veritable examples of "the boy who cried wolf". The more they misuse the term racist and bigot to describe someone who simply disagrees with them on substantive issues, the more they further dilute the word and it loses it's proper connotation.

Anyone who calls Obama a Nazi ad nauseum is likewise not only doing the same but they are trivializing the pogrom and egregious nature of the holocaust. Anyway he is a Marxist, not a Nazi. Marxists are ideologues dreaming of forcing their own concept of utopia on citizens. They are only dangerous when they fail and/or run into resistance from those they intend to rule.

I'm still trying to figure that one out Vlad the impaler.

You do realize that if someone takes too many left turns they inevitably begin to chase their own tail?

tom, instead of insulting people's names and making deragatory comments like others have made, can't you contribute something to the article or the post?

sscott, you need to be better as a seed moderator. Don't care if they're Left, Right, Republican, Democrat, Human, green, purple, friend or ignore, delete any derailing comments and inflammatory remarks that are unneccessary.

Sorry Bummer, but if you happen to see Vlad's dog chasing Schroedeger's cat let me know, k?

so you've taken the time to twist and spin, and THAT makes you better than Kanye somehow?

at least he was honest. Wrong maybe, but honest.

yep,

you and Kanye.

Does your crystal ball indicate what is motivating Obama to divide the country?

you and yours are the problem.

I got plenty and I'm not afraid of anyone or any race taking it away, either.

I love how the right wingnuts continue to bring up Rev. Wright. Like every Sunday's sermon was about hating America and White people. (What an ego).

That sermon was probably the sermon heard all across the country after events like Hurricane Katrina, leaving black folks to fend for themselves or die in a major American city. Or a white police officer murdering an unarmed black man, which happens much too often. Or the Rodney King verdict, etc. - I guess in your minds, Jesus Christ only gets an honorable mention in Rev. Wright's church during Easter and Christmas services, huh? Whatever ! You might be shocked to hear those same Rev. Wright soundbites in Baptist churches all over the country when an injustice happens to black folk and is just glossed over.

So please explain why when we call in to question the rev wright/obama injustices to white americans we are wrong- if its good for the blacks it is good for the whites- or are YOU racist??

What injustices are you referring to? Be specific. I deal in specifics. I'm as racist as you are. I hope that answers your question.

So please explain why when we call in to question the rev wright/obama injustices to white americans we are wrong- if its good for the blacks it is good for the whites- or are YOU racist??

LMFAO!!! That is one of the funniest statements I've ever seen.

Isn't it, and still no response to what those alledged injustices are. I know what it is; that fact that the He is a BLACK man in the WHITE House. (Oh, the injustice)

I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.

Fufu,

Your comment is highly regarded for good reason.

Taking things out of context allows for wild speculation and spin. It is scott's modus operandi in my opinion. I do think it would be interesting to see some context of these statements from the book. I tried searching and didn't find any discussion of the surrounding context. I did find many restatements of the quote but each were as shoddily presented as scott's in my opinion.

The quotes from his book sound to me like an honest discussion of how he felt growing up as a person with black skin in American society. If he experienced racism then I think he might feel a little resentment at some point. It's a natural reaction. I think he's actually done a lot to ingratiate himself to whites. He's the President of the United States you know...that takes a little bit of ingratiation.

It's like my having to read what I would argue are racist and ignorant arguments without personally insulting or holding contemptable the writer of those arguments- it's very hard to do actually. I have an initial reaction of anger and disgust, but then I move on and try to do and say what I believe is right without being a jerk about it. It's a process.

You don't disrespect your mother to do it. I don't care what color you are.

Bubba,

No doubt, if you made that statement at work, you would be fired. So you probably just wait until you are away from the office and free to make any incendiary comments you please. Typical !

SScott, my special glasses allow me to see the lies coming out the mouths of the right-wingnut - fringed-out tea-bagging - conspiracy theorizing - propaganda spreading - racist thugs that you represent.

Keep saying it and maybe someday someone will belive you. There are young white people in this country and white women. What race should Obama have marked on his census form? What would have been acceptable to you?

He hasn't used that 'typical white person' line when he was President. For instance, in my younger years I've called people with limited intelligence from the South ignorant rednecks, but I don't do that anymore.

I also notice how the word 'thug' has really come into its own to describe liberals. The word 'thug' has a lot of connotations to it- someone might argue that the word 'thug' is really a thinly veiled racist statement. It's too nebulous to prove, so it's safe to say. But I can see the argument for that word being carefully chosen as a safe way to describe, you know, those people.

Sscott,

Sorry, not rightwing, never have been

What you consider your political affiliation to be, it's still warped.

G-D Amerikkkaaaa!!!!! Now pass the collection plate. Don't forget to pick up a copy of our 37 page weekly Black-liberation theology guide book. And remember to drink your HATORAID, brothers and sisters.

And Tom, I'm sure you're a member of Rev. Anderson's church and participate in the Prayer for GOD to give the President Cancer. Now please go home and clean your guns and clutch your bibles. You really need Jesus.

You are so one sided that you can't see anything else - Conservative blinders. Tom wanted to bring up Rev. Wright. I brought up Rev. Anderson. You only see the Anti Rev. Anderson post. So typical Sscott. Again you've been exposed and come up on the losing end.

Look him up. He is well documented for his hate filled sermons Praying that death befalls the President. He is a disgusting human being. I'm sure you would love him though.

My opinion is that I agree with your opinion.

It's also my opinion that people that constantly attack Obama and liberals are getting all their information from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, can't think for themselves, and are just trying to overcompensate for their lack in other areas.

Remember - it's OK because it's just my opinion.

And a sound opinion, in my opinion.

"getting all their information from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh"

It wasn't Fox or Rush who said this, it is a quote from Obama.

"But she is a typical white person..."

sscott, how can you accuse me of being ignorant or lying by just my stating of my opinion?

It's just my opinion.

This doesn't offend me.

Am I a typical or atypical white person because of this?

Read my post above. When the far left stops demonizes everything Israel (Jews) says and does, maybe then they can charge racism. Until then you (general you) are hypocrites and way out of line.

Who exactly is demonizing jews or Israel?

Wow. Just wow.

Good luck guys.

Israel?

Jews?

What?

What in blue blazes are you talking about ralphie?

I never heard Obama demonize jews, just white people.

It really is unfortunate that stupidity isn't a felony.

"When the far left stops demonizes everything Israel (Jews) says and does, maybe then they can charge racism. Until then you (general you) are hypocrites and way out of line."

no one is demonizing israel and jews in general. the hard right wing of israeli politics is what is an anathema to people who watch middle eastern politics. the right wing political parties are just a racist as the far right wing in american politics. they're many anti racist jewish groups in israel and you neglect to mention that they receive much support from americans and europeans for their anti racist positions.

the israeli far right is just as violent as, and will resort to the same type of politics (assassination, Yitzhak Rabin) as the american far right.

I beg to differ. I suggest you read some of the left wing trash that's posted on the Israel site before you (general) belittle any kind of racism except the kind you approve of.

"the Israel site"?????

Ralphie, this all seems to be off topic. And peculiar.

There is nothing peculiar about hypocrisy. The far left attacks anyone that doesn't fall in line with their way of thinking by ascribing the sin of racism to them whether it's the right or just people who don't like Obama's policies. But they don't come to it with clean hands so it's hypocrisy.

Show me someone with clean hands, Ralphie.

Take note: sscott brought up the matter of racism with this "article".

His inability to defend himself and your attempt to make this about some perceived campaign of the left against Israel is not only false but in it's very essence hypocrisy.

The article and so called evidence doesn't seem to say what you think it does in my opinion.

Ralphie feels it's o.k. for the Israelis to build their settlements on Palestinian occupied land thereby sabotaging any talks for peace and when Obama and Hillary speak against it, they must be anti-semetic or against Israel. Keep reaching Ralphie. between you and SScott the reaching and stretching on this seed should be considered verbal pilates. You must be dizzy from all the spinning.

Speaking as a white person....

That says a mouthful. We now need to qualify race before making a comment.

I don't care if you bleach your taint.

Sounds like someone who has had experience with bleaching. Poor Tom.

thou doth protest too much. I heard taint bleaching originated in NYC

I heard there were some intelligent Conservatives. I guess we were both given false information.

More like opportunist.

I agree though that the race card shouldn't be played, for any race.

Where is this "race card" kept and can anyone show it to me?

Even a graphical representation might be helpful.

sscott said:

He plays the race card, that in and of itself, is racist.

and

I don't believe the President is racist, just like I don't believe that Republicans are.

I am not even going to say anything else except bye bye.

B.S.

So now you don't think that Obama is a racist?

And I'm being honest. In my opinion (this is an opinion piece) Obama is trying to divide us, and has made racist and bigoted statements.

Explain how a non racist makes racist and bigoted statements. You must be consistent otherwise people will think you are lying.

He plays the race card, that in and of itself, is racist.

Describe President Obama's Irish (white) physical traits?

I don't look at people traits. I look at their character.

Character is unseen. Sight is involuntary you do see physical traits. Denial is absurd.

you're really going to post that you don't notice a black person's color when you see them with a straight face. should anyone believe that garbage? you really are disconnected, from reality that is.

This is really just an all too familiar expression of the fear response that comes in the wake of these folks realizing that they are quickly shifting to the minority.

Payback is usually a bitch.

Polka, thinking like yours is the problem not the solution. We all need to get past racism and bigotry no matter what color we are.

"Walt-372714

Polka, thinking like yours is the problem not the solution. We all need to get past racism and bigotry no matter what color we are."

the problem is that the solution that the conservatives and a few liberals advocate is to "ignore it and it will go away". that is a failed strategy that has a track record of failure.

Well said, Billie. The people that voted our president into office will not be ignored.

Maybe not ignored, just defeated. Soon thankfully. If this guy were the Grand Wizard of the KKK he would still be a moron. He would still be a first generation American who does not love America except for what it can do for him, something that JFK told us to stop asking if one remembers.

Doctorsteph, must write his post with the National Anthem playing in the background.

Bugs Bunny - What a Maroon!

With friends like these, right sscott?

Your point being?

You accuse Obama of playing the race card while you're playing the race card....just like Palin!

Very transparent...

come onto the Vine and BANG

I was kinda of thinking the sames thing. I started reading the top articles and not one about Palin, Beck, or the Tea Party. And then BANG, there it was, another attempt to smear the Tea Party. I was let down. So sad.

I want the diviseness to stop. And the President is the one that has the power to stop it, but his partisanship keeps him from being able to.

That's absurd! That's what politicins do - all politicians!

Every POTUS before Obama did and every POTUS after him will do it...so this notion that it's Obama's fault is BS...

...hell Republicans have become experts at voting against their own bills and ideas just so they can say they opposed Obama...

I think you are reading way too much into things, and in doing so continue the divisiveness rather than achieving the goal of trying to reduce it.

Now that beer summit was not going to work. It is not like you can change white man's opinion.

of course it has to be the black man's fault. how dare you blame the white man for trying to arrest a man in his own home for doing nothing wrong. If I was obama i would not even invite that white thug. that so called "cop".

and it happened to be a white neighbor. think about it.

Obama has the right to check either his african or his european ancestry and he chose his african one. It does not matter though. what did you check on the census?

I got to try that in 10 years.

It is difficult not to condemn any kind of racism but It is ridiculous for the white people that probably did not vote for Obama because of race to accuse him of justified distrust of the whites. This whole argument is the basis of why whites are accused of racism in the first place!

Noone is marxist anymore except the north koreans and the vietnamese. And if obama's a marxist then mccain is a racist warmonger.

But McCain is a racist warmonger....

Why would his distrust of whites be "justified"?

sscott, even im not a marxist. Im simply a communist and i did not say mccain was a racist unless obama was a marxist.

@merleliz, obama would have justification because the whites are not the race being oppressed all the time.

Don't forget McCain also shows signs of being a misogynistic gold-digging academic underachieving philanderer.

I know McCain isn't the topic (sorry scott I know you are stickler for stay on topic) but the point is that extrapolating one character from one association, one act or one quote out of context can lead to down a silly path that this thread is but one example of. However, being silly can also be fun. Cheers.

can't find evidence that he was ever interested in women.

Scott, The fact that you went looking is kind of disturbing.

sscott:

I dare slander McCain, because he is the type of man who calls his own wife a @!$%# in public.

You are a poster boy for blind followers everywhere.

If only you had the sense to know to be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry that I missed that one; sounds like a gem though. Saying "can't find" implies that you looked and having looked implies interest. Well, whatever gets your rocks off.

sscott:

You have provided all the definition for "racist" that I will need for my entire lifetime, with this little "article" of yours and subsequent comments.

I generally try to stay away from folks like you, because they tend to make me long for the good old days when punching people didn't necessarily land you in jail.

But I am glad I stopped by.

You have really helped to strengthen my resolve that folks with your twisted sensibility should be kept far away from the responsibility of governing others.

You are a dinosaur that doesn't have the sense to know it's extinct.

Lie down, we'll wake you when all this is over.

What in God's name are you rambling on about?

Quit alluding to these events and just come out and say it.

Leftist thug?

Dear God, man.

This is really pathetic in the extreme.

Now YOU want to play victim?

You?

Mr. "The President is a racist"?

Give me a break.

I believe in free speech, but you are making it very hard for me to support that right in all cases.

I hope we run into each other frequently around the vine.

first sscott says that obama is a racist. then he says he surrounds himself with people like bill ayers, who is caucasian. you don't have clue about bill ayers because you weren't in california while your hero, ronald wilson reagan, was running this state like a banana republic, attacking with police recruited from the deep south, every black person no matter what age, and caucasian university students they could round up who was not a member of the college republicans. you have no idea about the beatings, the tanks rolling up and down streets, the police coming onto middle school campuses and beating twelve, thirteen, and fourteen year students at will. you have no idea how grim living in california was during the sixties.

the students for a democratic society (sds) of which bill ayers was a leader, were a non violent student group that advocated for rights for black people and students in the state of california, which expanded to other campuses in california and nation wide. they held non violent marches and other activities to advocate for these things. governor reagan set the california national guard and local police agencies on them like dogs. i remember walking to the bus stop coming from upward bound classes when two policemen cruising in their patrol car stopped and said to me "what are you carrying books for? you know that monkies can't read". i remember coming out of class walking through the plaza between the student union and the administration building, looking up and seeing a line of police officers with their guns raised firing tear gas and shotgun pellets my way. i remember the sight of the smoke rising out of the shoguns, then rising like a wisp of smoke. this is the activity that made a group of the sds members fomulate the weathermen which later changed their name to the weather underground. the violence that was taken against them like the violence taken against the black panthers at the same time (police stopping in front of the panther headquarters on shaddock ave in berkeley, pulling out their guns and rifles and opening fire, is what precipitated the violence from the groups that ayers is affiliated with. your hero started the violence, much like the easter day massacre made the irish protests become violent.

kappa:

Thanks for the perspective that your Experience provides.

that situation must have been terrible, Kappa. the californian government should have been overthrown and all of those officers should have been executed.

lived in CA during this time-I call bull@!$%#!!

How dare you slander a man like Mccain. He gave a lot for this country, which is far more than can be said of the wimp Obama.

How dare he? It's BKT's "opinion" that McCain is a racist warmonger. You have a problem with someone else having an opinion? it's your "opinion" that "Obama doesn't care about white people". Is sscott the only one that's entitled to an opinion?

You mean the same mccain that refused to authorize additional funding for the troops? The same mccain that for some reason helped bush start a blood for oil campaign in the middle east costing thousands of american lives? he is definetely patriotic.

I will say it. Don't forget that oil is not the only thing. It was revealed that Bush may have had a religious agenda when he decided to invade the middle east. So mccain added palin, a religious zealot to back up his agenda of christian (and jewish) imperialism in the middle east. and his increasingly hostile attitude toward iran could cost many lives over the inevitability of its nuclear program.

I'm former military and I say McCain is Insane and has racist tendencies. He voted against MLK's birthday becoming a National Holiday. If that makes me unpatriotic, and unAmerican (In your menial opinion) So be it. He may be a National Hero to you, but he will never have a National Holiday like M.L.K. does (even though he tried to stop it)

Then you agree your hero McCain was wrong and should not have voted against Dr. King's Birth-Holiday then.... Right?

"sscott

Setting off bombs at police stations and the pentagon?

He should have not been taken alive. And anyone with family in the military should abhor the terrorist Ayers

if not for the policies of that criminal reagan the sds and other groups would never have gone violent. my family has numerous present and past members of the military and they are not fans of reagan either. when you lived through the times and saw your parents, families, and friends disrespected by law enforcement and the banana republic manner in which reagan ran the state of california it is hard to even think that your post has any credence.

doctorsteph

lived in CA during this time-I call bull@!$%#!!"

you are obviously a liar. if you did not see the tanks in he streets you were living in upper northern california (past chico, heavily hard right wing) and not in any of the cities. you could not miss the police brutality and tanks in the cities

"sscott

doctorsteph, you are correct.

I was in California when Reagan was shot.

We gathered on the beaches, right, left, old, young, and lit fires.

The fires could be seen all along the coast. He was beloved by members of all parties and independents"

i was taking classes at long beach state university on the day that reagan was shot and was a frequent visitor to santa monica beach and the other area beaches. i did not see the fires, and reagan was not universally loved by the people of california. another lie. the left in california gathering for reagan? are you crazy?

"sscott

I like the Republican MLK."

1) there is not one shred of evidence that martin was a republican

2) all martin's closest advisors have all stated he was not a republican

3) martin did not hang out with any conservatives and ouwl not hang out with the republicans of today'e party

4) if you do any reading of martin's' work like "letter from the birmingham jail" or the last chapters from his autobiography you would read and learn of the radicalism of martin, especially as he became more and more disgusted with the recalitrance of america in regards to race and social justice

5) conservatives only try to coop his legacy because he is dead. conservatives hated him while he was alive and still do.

...and still do. Say that again.

"sscott

Wow, so many lies. So little time.

First the Reagan was not President during the weather underground's bombings.

Epic fail on that."

where did i once say that reagan was president during the bombings. strawman. i said that reagan's actions while governor of california caused the weathermen to be formed.

"2nd, no tanks in the street. Prove it, show us pictures. It is a lie. The military can not operate in the US. And don't show us the runaway tank that some idiot in California stole and drove down the freeway.

but the california national guard can be deployed by the governor. the old if you can show pictures it didn't happen defense like the congressmen being spat upon.

from wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#Governor_of_California. 2C_1967.E2.80.931975

Reagan's governorship was punctuated by high-profile conflicts with the protest movement of the era. In 1969, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol to quell the protests at UC Berkeley, and later used the National Guard to occupy the University for two weeks to quell additional unrest.^[62][63]

"And I lived in Oceanside at the time, we gathered at the beach and lit fires that could be seen everywhere. I was a Democrat at the time, and so were all my friends. We liked Reagan, and were genuinely disturbed byt he assassination attempt. We all prayed for the man."

You must have been far too left for that I geuss."

i repeat, you're crazy. i didn't cheer because i feel that assination as politics is abhorrent, but i shed few if any tears, and if you would have left oceanside and visited compton, watts, inglewood, south central los angeles, oakland, berkeley, san diego,and many more places the reaction to his assassination attempt was much more subdued. i didn't see the fires and lived not far from the beach and long beach state university was not too far from long beach and i did not see the fires. there may have been a few people like you, but not the mass outpouring that you claim.

"Key point on the link;

In “A Covenant With Life: Reclaiming MLK’s Legacy”, Dr. Alveda C.

King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., states:

“My grandfather, Dr. Martin Luther King, Sr., or ‘Daddy

King’, was a Republican and father of Dr. Martin Luther

King, Jr. who was a Republican.”

http://crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/martin-luther-king-jr-was-a-republican

The National Black Republican Association has paid for billboards showing an image of the civil rights leader and the words "Martin Luther King Jr. was REPUBLICAN." Told about the billboards, the Rev. Joseph Lowery let out a soft chuckle that grew stronger as he began to think more about the idea. "These guys never give up, do they?" said Lowery, who co-founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with King. "Lord have mercy."

"That was not the Martin I know and I don't think they can substantiate that by any shape, form or fashion. It's purely propaganda and poppycock," Lowery said. "Even if he was, he would have nothing to do with what the Republican Party stands for today. Do they think Martin would support George W. Bush and the war in Iraq?" Read on...

this was a man who worked intimately with dr. king, and not a niece who never even had the opportunity to know the man personally.

from south carolina state university

http://www.thescsucollegian.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticlePrinterFriendly&uStory_id=a3e5e5f3-70dc-415b-86e7-51513d0cf6ad

Professor of history at SC State University Dr. William Hine, agreed emphatically that King was not a Republican. "Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was not-that's N-O-T-a Republican." Hine went on to explain that his father, Dr. King, Sr., had been a Republican in his political upbringing, but he also asserts that "when the Kennedy family helped to get Dr. King released from a rural Georgia jail in 1960 (prior to the election of 1960), Dr. King, Sr. decided that he would not vote republican. He instead cast his ballot for John F. Kennedy, the democrat."

that fact that he surrounded himself with advisors who were socialists and even communists kinda makes that a spurious contention

i think that the epic fail is on your side, pos

Was King a right-wing conservative? Or even a moderate conservative?

So...King was a liberal, right?

I have, LOL. I also know that he called for a guaranteed income. Is that a conservative?

If you think his speeches were politically conservative, you have either bought the rightist appropriation of liberal language for anti-black purposes, or you are pretending to have bought it. It doesn't really matter which. As in many other cases, you and your kind are preaching to the choir on this one. You'll certainly never get the mass of black people to believe that King was a rightist. In fact, by pushing that line, you ensure that the mass of black people will never come around to your general political point view. Not only that, but you won't even achieve the the primary true purpose of the "King was a Republican" dodge...swaying more moderate, truly tolerant whites.

Now, as for the purpose of having a comforting rationalization for yourselves? You'll probably achieve that:).

Yes, that you have issues which are best explored with a paid therapist.

Ha!

I watched the videos (except the one of Obama talking about the midterm elections is stuck). The first is not Obama speaking at all, and at the time that the young men in the video were raising money for Katrina victims, I was getting some of the same impression that Kanye West was. Maybe what he said about Bush was harsh, but my general opinion of Bush at the time, and remaining unto this day, is that Bush didn't give a rat's butt about anybody except his little circle of family and his corporate masters. The video that actually featured Obama didn't seem like it was any declaration of racial animosity at all. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

As for the quotes that you assert make up a "pattern," one is something he never said at all, and the others are out of context. And while I can't speak for his experience as a biracial man, it's been true historically that people with any African ancestors were perceived as black, regardless of their white ancestry, and even were kept as slaves by their white relatives before slavery was abolished. So I don't find it surprising that Obama would self-identify as black.

See the Snopes rundown below:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asphttp://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

Pattie, Thanks so much for the link. That provides the context I was interest in learning about.

Scott, Are you doubting the explanation in the link as related to the attribution of your quotes from Obama's book? It guess I have to live with that you are entitled to your opinion but it seems that basis for it is kind of crumbling.

Yeah you white people really have it bad with 200+ years of white presidents and you making more money than everyone else. got to feel sorry for you right?

Can delve into his pychic, but who really knows.

Could be he resents his mother who basically abandoned him or giving him a social taboo to grow up with and being forced to choose between on race or another. It wasn't easy back then to grow up mixed race.

Must be why he hates white people!! Hardly doubt it, his father left him also.

Polka...sounds like maybe you hate white people.

Yea, that's it, the resentment is caused by his upbringing. By the way it's still hard being mixed race, even these days.

Does anybody know of any good black people?

WTF?

President Obama, Martin Luther King, John Lewis, Anita Hill, Maya Angelou, Nelson Mandela, and lots of other people that I have had the pleasure of meeting.

This is beginning to sound a lot like "Oh, I have black friends."

Please stop.

I didn't actually say they were my friends.

I know, and I'm not attempting to single anyone out.

To simply humor someone who asks for a list of "good black people" is offensive enough.

Better to let their comment dangle in space than to reply.

In my opinion.

Blue,

Point taken.

Jumpmaster82

"If my momma was white and she abused me by making me get up in the morning, early in the morning to study and learn to make good of myself, I would be mad at white people too. All the other black kids were still in bed.

Sad another abused child, taking it out on society by getting back at white people."

sad. this is really a pathetic, and dare i say it, racist post

It's also a fearful, wilfully delusional, wishful thinking post:).

no im sure the whites are not satisfied with having most of the power instead of having all the power.

whatever

I have no problems with that, sscott but I will not pretend that racism doesn't exist where it plainly does. Obama cares for everyone. If you want to bash racists, bash the Tea Klux Klan, an organization based solely on white people. Where are the people of color in your organization, TKK? I think i rest my case.

Polka - do you even realize how racist you are yourself? Saying any white group is racist for being white is quite funny.

That's what I used to tell my troops, we're all green!

Dang I miss that equality

If you believe that Obama cares about anyone except himself think again. Even his own extended family is left in the lurch. Is it so hard to believe that maybe Obama has disaffected so many people?? I knew this person for what he is long ago. Contributed to his campaign, and was called a racist when I wouldn't give more. The campaign worker was not acoustically black, so I checked with a friend- INDEED, Obama's campaign strategy was to accuse people of racism to try to play to their guilt for additional donations- what a creep.

Steph, I'm gonna need some proof on that. I don't buy it.

well, its what happened. The lady on the phone had an accent LI or Bronx- never been very good.

President Obama has not "disaffected so many people" but has severely disaffected a loud minority few on the basis of the color of his skin rather than the color of his politics.

right...no proof.

what would you consider proof?

You stated this:

INDEED, Obama's campaign strategy was to accuse people of racism to try to play to their guilt for additional donations- what a creep

As one who has received e-mails, phone calls and other materials during his campaign, I've seen absolutely no evidence that accusing people of racisim was a strategy. I told all of the callers, no to their donation requests, I do not donate to anybody's campaigns. Not a single person accused me of being a racist. I still have all the e-mails, so I can provide them if you need. You need to provide more than your word that it was a part of his strategy.

well, I haven't any idea, but I did contribute and refused to provide additional funds which was when she called me a racist. As I said it was a little too quick and easy on the tongue to believe this was isolated, so I asked my friend. Sorry if you don't like my experience with the not so great one, but that is what happened. Jose was quite frank about the strategy, and said it worked most of the time.

Nice!

A new nadir!

Oh, now you've done it. All the Trollseeders out there are now going to try to outdo themselves and push the envelope of lameness. Thanks.

I would agree that the words "white" and "black" probably should not be used however they are used as a basis for determining certain independent races.

But since I look white, I am always grouped as one.

Scott, since the president looks black, why can't he be grouped with black people on the census form if he chooses to do so by checking that particular box? Would you feel all better if he had checked the box for white? Does the fact that people group you as a white person bother you?

I think all the people making the kind of accusations like you have here are the dividers, not President Obama. That's my opinion, not that it matters though, I'm just an oppressed white male.

White people can not be oppressed. They only know how to oppress.

White people cannot be oppressed? Polka, tell me why one tribe of black people, hacked other people from the other tribe with machetes in Rwanda? Robert Magumba oppressed black and white people. And did you know that most of the pharohs in Egypt were black? And during that time, light skinned people were not recorded at birth? Obama`s progressive message is that if you are against me, you are a racist. Remember, Saul Ilinsky? I am totally sick of the race card. This is so phony and transparent, a child could see through it. And if you try to tell some of these people, they tell you that you are wrong. Now the guy with a swastica armband, and a baseball bat, tells you he is going to crush your skull, THAT is racism. The game that Obama plays is ideological bull @!$%#. He knows better, he is just trying to scam his ideology, it is called BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION. Brainwashing.

Hey sscott, that is funny because the jews can not oppress. They only can be oppressed.

@psychokiller, I think it is extremely obvious why most whites did not vote for our president but I would like you to tell me one thing Obama or his campaign did that could be called race baiting or using the made up "race card".

I voted for the president because he is above race even though the racist right would have you believe otherwise. His skin color tells you what his dominante race is but he is an independent american that tolerates and respects everyone regardless of race. It is unfortunate i could not say that about republicans.

Know what is really funny? You not having any proof and that the first african american president is being called such horrible things and having his judgment and tolerance questioned by people like you. I would bet you would not say that to bush or any other president.

It's cause it rhymes with "decider", right?

I haven't the same perspective as Obama has. I wouldn't find it too surprising if he more strongly identified with a background that a lot of people, regarless of their ethnicity, projected on him; i.e. if most people referred to him as black, it is not surprising that is how he thought of himself. People, even future Presidents, probably want a sense of belonging to a larger group. It would not be surprising to me at all, that Obama drawn to the group that more readily accepted him. People are also free to change how they see things as they grow up, even future Presidents. If people are willing to give him that latitude, they just aren't being fair about it.

My god, I was a borderline libertarian when I was 16! I'd wouldn't want that projected upon me today.

If people are willing to give him that latitude

Critical typo from this leftist, I meant:

aren't

if most people referred to him as black, it is not surprising that is how he thought of himself.

I would think that most mixed race people identify themselves as the race which they appear to be most like.

What's wrong with your seed is that for over a year Obama has tried to make his policies a bipartisan effort with nothing but obstruction coming from the right. That's were the divisiveness has come from, Not from Obama. That's what makes your seed full of hypocrisy. Because your version of pointing out hypocrisy is hypocritical if you cannot speak on all of the obstruction that has taken place before he made these statements.

His statements were to his target audience. Those he left out are not part of his target base. Sorry if you feel left out. Maybe if you weren't so hypocritical in your opinions.

BS his idea of bipartisan effort was " I won"

now i just hope we change.

I noticed during the supposed Health care summit with repubs that his idea of getting along was to talk down to and insult John McCain.

Whatever, His SCOTUS nominee was vetted despite Republican obstruction

His Healthcare reform passed despite Republican obstruction and Scott Brown gaining Kennedy's seat

His Financial reform looks like it's gonna pass although the Republicans obstructed 3 times to stop it.

Your tactics mean nothing! You still end up losing. I laugh at you.

It's the arrogance of the right that thought they could cause Obama's waterloo. How wrong were you? Let me help you with that: VERY WRONG

Oh... My... God!

Maybe we are doomed??????

Is #26 serious or just heavy sarcasm?

We are doomed. There's just too much ignorance and stupidity in this country, especially among the self-described "real Americans".

No @!$%#.

To think that anyone places faith in these folks to lead us to anything other than our own demise is crazy!

Idiots we didn't take your land your dumb@$$ ancestors sold it to us

If you believe this, you're dumber than your post makes you sound.

Is that even possible?

Let's commence to feudin'. I hears them grunnions are a comin'.

Tyler Perry? U think Madea, a fictional character, is threatening? WOW. Hmm I don't know what to say about that.